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Post by dsjr on Feb 19, 2017 15:23:56 GMT
What you need is a good dealer to get the thing out in front of you, set it up and run it to confirm all is well! Rega would happily check and supply replacement parts, but as legally, your first call is via the supplying dealer, it's here you should have used.
An old friend of mine has owned three RP1's over it's production life - long story, and found the latest one from last year superb. The Carbon cartridge was found to be fine tracking at 1.8g or so. The LP12 itch continued to give trouble, so after a couple of false starts with over-ripe old ones, he's just bought a good used LP12-Magik-Adikt from an authorised dealer which is so-far-so-wonderful for him...
Sorry to labour the point before I shuffle off into lurk mode again, but these things should rightly be checked by the dealer first before the user takes it home. RP1's were sold in supermarkets I understand (Tesco's from memory), so this may not be possible with this model, but should be a pre-requisite for Planar 1's upwards..
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Post by wankel on Feb 19, 2017 19:53:48 GMT
This is brilliant guys ! Ta very much loike. I'm aiming for a planar 2 I think. Cheap as chips and hopefully bob proof. Now. ...a good cheap amp with a phono stage please. I hate in built phon stages but I'm hoping time has improved things. Thanks in advance you sterling men of honour !
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Post by MartinT on Feb 20, 2017 8:37:53 GMT
Do you mean an integrated amp? Can you give us an idea of power requirements and budget?
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Post by ChrisB on Feb 20, 2017 8:51:07 GMT
The OP says the speakers will be the KEF XQ1.
Specs: System type 3-way Enclosure type Bass-reflex Frequency response ± 3dB 60 - 55000 Hz Nominal impedance 8 Ohm Amplifier Requirements 15 - 120 W Sensitivity (2.83V/1m) 89 dB Maximum output (SPL) 109 dB Tweeter 19 mm (3/4 in.) hypertweeter Woofer 165 mm (6.5") Uni-Q with 19 mm (3/4") HF Dimensions (H x W x D) 418 x 231 x 308 mm / 16.46 x 9.09 x 12.13 in. Weight 9.2 kg / 20.24 lbs.
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Post by wankel on Feb 20, 2017 9:23:09 GMT
Just a nice little system for a pair seeing up their first home. As stated the speakers will be my old KEF XQ1's . Which will see them right for an upgrade or two shold they go down that road. Need a bit of power to get the best out though from experience. Rega rekkid player, with any one of an assortment i have in reserve. Possibly a 1042 or SAE 1000E. There's an Ortofon 2M Black as well doing nowt at the moment. I think an in built phono is the way to go for now. Even a second hand decent Japanesee would do. About 300 squid max I reckon. Ta.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 20, 2017 9:33:00 GMT
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Post by wankel on Feb 20, 2017 10:08:32 GMT
Isn't that rather a lot for am armless old model ? I have an RB 300 here going spare though, but still.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 14:50:39 GMT
Somewhere that we do differ then Andrew, I wouldn't personally touch Creek kit with a bargepole!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 14:54:55 GMT
Amps wise personally, I would recommend an Audiolab 8000a, I know not to everyone's taste, but I had one and it was a great sounding amp and gets better if you choose to upgrade the ancillaries. Comes with a good built MM and MC switchable phono amp too.
Be warned to not overpay for one though, they seem to sometimes go for silly money.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 20, 2017 15:36:28 GMT
I would recommend an Audiolab 8000a The early ones had no RFI filtering and can sound very harsh depending on the environment they're in. Later ones had RFI filters installed and were more consistent. Nicely built amps. There are some superb Japanese integrated amps on eBay, but you need to sort the wheat from the chaff. Just one example from Sony.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:40:51 GMT
I would recommend an Audiolab 8000a The early ones had no RFI filtering and can sound very harsh depending on the environment they're in. Later ones had RFI filters installed and were more consistent. Nicely built amps. There are some superb Japanese integrated amps on eBay, but you need to sort the wheat from the chaff. Just one example from Sony. Agreed, I should have said that you look for a post 1992 model (black front with either a grey or black lid), the earlier models, as Martin says could be very hash. Also if you do decide to plum for one, look out for damage to the RCA/phono inputs as they weren't the strongest so therefore needed to be treated with respect, but you find a lot of people haven't. I nearly bought one for my second system but fancied playing around with T-Amps so went for an Amptastic instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 17:32:37 GMT
Somewhere that we do differ then Andrew, I wouldn't personally touch Creek kit with a bargepole! Yes it just goes to show that we are all different. I've had quite a few 4040 and 4140s in various incarnations. I've always found them to be fast, punchy and musical. On more than one occasion they have replaced Naim pre/power combos in a 2nd system. Always been bulletproof too. At £50 upwards I still can't believe the value on offer. I have no experience of later creek stuff. We do agree on the Audiolabs though. Very good amps and a pleasure to use. Plenty power and a good phono stage too. All they lacked for me was a bit of clarity but only a very minor thing. If the OP is spending Audiolab money, it's worth seeking out an Onix too as Tony Brady is currently offering a free service for old models. Great amps IMO and also wicked phono stages. its a really nice gesture so I hope the OP has fun choosing. These so much fab used kit out there you can't really go wrong. Edit: I should add that I prefer the older Audiolabs. I recognise they may not perform well if subjected to RFI but in the two locations I've used them they sang. That said, I still like the later ones too. Just not as musical to my ears.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 18:08:30 GMT
Somewhere that we do differ then Andrew, I wouldn't personally touch Creek kit with a bargepole! Yes it just goes to show that we are all different. I've had quite a few 4040 and 4140s in various incarnations. I've always found them to be fast, punchy and musical. On more than one occasion they have replaced Naim pre/power combos in a 2nd system. Always been bulletproof too. At £50 upwards I still can't believe the value on offer. I have no experience of later creek stuff. We do agree on the Audiolabs though. Very good amps and a pleasure to use. Plenty power and a good phono stage too. All they lacked for me was a bit of clarity but only a very minor thing. If the OP is spending Audiolab money, it's worth seeking out an Onix too as Tony Brady is currently offering a free service for old models. Great amps IMO and also wicked phono stages. its a really nice gesture so I hope the OP has fun choosing. These so much fab used kit out there you can't really go wrong. Edit: I should add that I prefer the older Audiolabs. I recognise they may not perform well if subjected to RFI but in the two locations I've used them they sang. That said, I still like the later ones too. Just not as musical to my ears. Oh my issue with Creek is personal, I fell out with Mike Creek and his son Luke years ago, as a result I vowed to never buy their stuff whether in the Epos or Creek guise.
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Post by julesd68 on Feb 20, 2017 18:35:20 GMT
I think the Audiolab is a bit of a 'marmite' amp ... I wasn't a huge fan of them back in the day but a number of years ago I bought a mint looking one on ebay - don't ask me why, coz I don't know ... Anyway, I thought it sounded so bad that it needed a service - so made a long-ish trip to an Audiolab specialist who spent a couple of hours on it whilst I waited. Took it home and didn't like it any better so it went on ebay within a few days ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 21:19:40 GMT
It's a bit of a funny one all round, the Audiolab. It's been in at least three different guises and sounded different to me each time. The first one with DINs was real marmite. I liked it a lot with some speakers but it was uneven. The second version with Phonos but still in the fetching brown shade was a bit more veiled but still a nice amp. I'm not sure about later Chinese made amps, although I did have an 8000lx which was a nice amp too.
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Post by wankel on Feb 20, 2017 22:58:52 GMT
Good stuff. Thanks for the posts.
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Post by dsjr on Feb 21, 2017 9:30:05 GMT
Black cased 8000A's were very good, but could be fussy of cables for best results. I loved the early cheapo Creeks, but a local pal had a later Creek Evo model and it was airless and dead sounding to me (he replaced it with a Brio-R). Cambridge (NAD too) have made some good amps in recent times, but I don't know if they offer mm inputs. Rotel kind-of lost market presence (in my opinion) after B&W took over distribution, but their amps have benefitted for decades from 'UK' design thinking (oh alright, Stan Curtis )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 14:09:01 GMT
Yes it just goes to show that we are all different. I've had quite a few 4040 and 4140s in various incarnations. I've always found them to be fast, punchy and musical. On more than one occasion they have replaced Naim pre/power combos in a 2nd system. Always been bulletproof too. At £50 upwards I still can't believe the value on offer. I have no experience of later creek stuff. We do agree on the Audiolabs though. Very good amps and a pleasure to use. Plenty power and a good phono stage too. All they lacked for me was a bit of clarity but only a very minor thing. If the OP is spending Audiolab money, it's worth seeking out an Onix too as Tony Brady is currently offering a free service for old models. Great amps IMO and also wicked phono stages. its a really nice gesture so I hope the OP has fun choosing. These so much fab used kit out there you can't really go wrong. Edit: I should add that I prefer the older Audiolabs. I recognise they may not perform well if subjected to RFI but in the two locations I've used them they sang. That said, I still like the later ones too. Just not as musical to my ears. Oh my issue with Creek is personal, I fell out with Mike Creek and his son Luke years ago, as a result I vowed to never buy their stuff whether in the Epos or Creek guise. Admins - I have edited my above post as I thought I shouldn't mention other forum disputes, as it's likely against this forums TOR, sorry.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 21, 2017 22:01:02 GMT
Thanks, Paul. I didn't read it as you bringing baggage over. Pretty old dispute, anyway.
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