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Post by pinkie on Jul 6, 2014 19:02:50 GMT
Has anyone heard of pono? Apparently it's part of the great analogue revival. I had lunch with a school friend and his son who is a drummer and recording studio engineer was enthusing. Yet another studio recording with vintage analogue equipment this time for transfer to 24bit - but clearly with scope for direct analogue to vinyl. We live in interesting times
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Post by ChrisB on Jul 6, 2014 19:18:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 19:20:57 GMT
Pono isn't analogue - it's a high quality alternative to Itunes and the like with dedicated player as I understand it.
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Post by Chris on Jul 6, 2014 20:08:17 GMT
Yeah,Ive heard of it,but haven't heard it. Supposedly Neil Young wasn't happy with the digital quality and set out to make change. Good for him.
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Post by MartinT on Jul 6, 2014 21:36:59 GMT
Could be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 8:37:11 GMT
I got the impression that it is a solution looking for a problem.
The buying public will usually buy what the marketeers steer them towards, but the yoof seem to be quite happy with their mp3 at the moment, being into the music and not the kit. High res alternatives are already, and have always, been available, but the yoof follow the price.
For myself I have run tests on studio masters at different resolutions and although I thought I could initially tell the difference between 96k and 192k I now believe it was psychacoustics at work. I don't think I can tell the difference, but then my ears are old and possibly not in the best state to make these observations.
More resolution is obviously the future as the tech improves and storage gets cheaper and bigger, but I get the distinct feeling that the PR around pono is just hype.
There is always the FiiO X5, which is the same bit of kit, but on the market already.
we shall see.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 7, 2014 8:53:53 GMT
Neil Young is enough of a PITA with a big bee in his bonnet about digital to maybe make a difference. Let's hope so
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 9:47:40 GMT
I can't see it succeeding but you never know.
The market has got to be shrinking and when this generation of hi-fi nutters finally runs out, people will probably wonder what all the fuss was about. As MOST people fail to reliably pick up decent rate MP3 from lossless, I can't see there will be enough takers to keep this going. Starting from scratch to take on the likes of iTunes is a big ask.
Having said that, he got his crowd source investment very quickly so who knows. The player is pig ugly though, looks like a big Toblerone bar.
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Post by MikeMusic on Jul 7, 2014 9:57:07 GMT
The main stream music buying public and industry doesn't care anywhere near enough, but then this cyclist of so many years was staggered watching the Tour de France yesterday, estimated crowds of 1.5 million - to watch a bike race !!?
A metaphor too far or not ?
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 25, 2017 6:31:10 GMT
Neil Young has given up with Pono but he is launching a streaming service that has adaptable resolution that delivers the best quality that your connection can deliver at any given moment. The price is fixed, regardless of the quality you actually receive. "For more than eight months, I've been working with our small team to look for alternatives. Finding a way to deliver the quality music without the expense and to bring it to a larger audience has been our goal," Young said. "Xstream plays at the highest quality your network condition allows at that moment and adapts as the network conditions change. It's a single high-resolution bit-perfect file that essentially compresses as needed to never stop playing." Young added that "every recording I have ever released will soon be available in Xstream high-resolution quality at my complete online archive." What Young realized from his Pono experience is that "good sounding music is not a premium," he said. "All songs should cost the same, regardless of digital resolution. Let the people decide what they want to listen to without charging them more for true quality. That way quality is not an elitist thing. If high-resolution costs more, listeners will just choose the cheaper option and never hear the quality." While this adaptive streaming service has proven "a difficult sell" for investors so far, Young said he's still committed to this particular labour of love. www.cbc.ca/beta/news/entertainment/pono-neil-young-streaming-1.4079358
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Post by MikeMusic on Apr 25, 2017 12:33:31 GMT
Nice. Well done our Neil. Could be a cat or two amongst record industry pigeons
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Post by MartinT on Apr 25, 2017 12:54:45 GMT
That sounds like a competitor to MQA. If he's not careful, he'll have another failure on his hands.
Why is he so set on yet another system rather than agreeing a deal with, say, Spotify?
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Post by ChrisB on Apr 25, 2017 13:35:10 GMT
His recordings were on Spotify Martin, but he has always been pro high quality formats for the listeners and fans and I think he wants this to go beyond his own stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 13:48:55 GMT
I personally think Spotify is pretty good quality, yes it is not quite as good as when you import the music yourself into FLAC or whatever, but unless you compared the two, I doubt you'd notice.
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Post by MartinT on Apr 25, 2017 16:10:20 GMT
What I mean is, persuade a provider like Spotify with the distribution and UI to offer additional super hi-res streams then figure out a payment system. Who wants yet another streaming solution?
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