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Post by ChrisB on Aug 25, 2016 21:04:12 GMT
Tomorrow's World: "You don't need to worry about grubby fingers.....or even scratches!"
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 25, 2016 21:05:01 GMT
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 25, 2016 21:06:07 GMT
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 25, 2016 21:07:10 GMT
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Post by ChrisB on Aug 25, 2016 21:16:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 21:42:59 GMT
No worries eh. I dont see any purpose for a CD player any more even though i have two & lots iof CDee's! In all fairness it needs removing from the system.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 5:51:40 GMT
Ah, if only I had used a CD like that to win the girls over...
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 5:56:32 GMT
"They would compress or they would boost selections, it's not necessary to do most of those things for CD".
Hah - did anyone remember to tell modern producers?
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 26, 2016 16:29:43 GMT
"They would compress or they would boost selections, it's not necessary to do most of those things for CD". Hah - did anyone remember to tell modern producers? Unfortunately the producers have cock all to do with production mastering. The delivered master and the production master are two different items. The band/producer can provide something that sounds really, really good, and they then hand it over to the Record Company. The production master is done to client (usually the Record Company) specification, and if the spec says make it louder than everything else out there then that's what happens. Producers and mastering engineers have to put food on the table too, and it's the client that dictates what goes down. If the artist is the client then the released recording is usually spot on.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 16:38:06 GMT
So do you think Coldplay, for example, instruct their producer to make their recording really, really shit? Or is it done at the production mastering stage? Whatever is happening, they are really consistent. All Coldplay recordings are shit quality.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 26, 2016 16:54:46 GMT
Coldplay are on a list of artists I change channels on the radio for - I can't abide them. Adele falls into the same category.
Actually I hate Coldplay's recorded material because it's a sophisticated as nursery rhymes. Adele because she drones on rather too loudly about whatever it is she's droning on about.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 16:58:17 GMT
Yerse, and although I agree about Adele, I wasn't talking about the music.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 26, 2016 17:14:23 GMT
You can't polish a turd. Coldplay produce music (I use the term music loosely) for the deaf.
I'm pretty damned sure that most artists that are in control of their own recorded output do not present the record company with badly mixed masters. The record company sends the masters for production mastering. If the record company had any sense they'd leave the delivered masters alone, and release as is.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 17:54:37 GMT
Let's compare two bands that everybody loves to hate. Dire Straits made exemplary recordings throughout their recording career whereas Coldplay have made shite recordings throughout their career.
This isn't a discussion about the music but, as it happens, I really like both bands. Both were at the pinnacle of income making so it isn't about the money. So what is it, then? Do Coldplay ask them to balance for iPods? Are they all terminally deaf? Do they like that sound for some reason (I can't think why)? Or does the record company overrule them?
I'm trying to get to why it should be without the emotional distraction of whether you like them or not.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 26, 2016 18:26:42 GMT
Was that the drawer loading CDP-101 Mike, or the even earlier vertical disc loader? Drawer loading at a guess. Pretty sure it wasn't vertical So many years ago and it was only visiting for a few hours
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 26, 2016 18:34:27 GMT
Coldplay are at a disadvantage.
Back in the day Dire Straits recordings were exemplary. In fact all of Dire Straits recorded output was recorded beautifully.
Coldplay were disadvantaged right at the start - the loudness war had started, and good taste with respect to recording standards had gone out of the window. Record companies had hooked into the idea that louder meant better. Coldplay being young, impressionable, and hungry (probably literally so) would have accepted whatever constraints and poor standards the record company told them were necessary. Their recordings are consistently rubbish because they don't know any better. That, and they haven't progressed from writing nursery rhymes.
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Post by MartinT on Aug 26, 2016 20:36:43 GMT
Ok, that seems a reasonable theory.
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Post by MikeMusic on Aug 27, 2016 18:50:38 GMT
Will Mr. Wilson be rremarstering Coldplay in a few years time........
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Post by MartinT on Aug 27, 2016 22:52:46 GMT
He can't make it sound any worse.
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Post by Stratmangler on Aug 27, 2016 23:57:22 GMT
Will Mr. Wilson be rremarstering Coldplay in a few years time........ You can't polish a turd ..... It's a commission Mr Wilson would probably decline
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