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Post by MartinT on Feb 3, 2016 21:00:28 GMT
Not an exhaustive list, all from my collection. All run in stereo using the highest resolution available on the disc, played in my Ayre C-5xe player.
Norah Jones - Come Away With Me - SACD (only very marginally better) The Doors - s/t - SACD (utterly superb, like listening to master tape) Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - DVD-A (very good, shows up the multitrack layering) Genesis - Selling England by the Pound - Japanese SACD (utterly superb, like listening to master tape) Deep Purple - Machine Head - SACD (very good) Peter Gabriel - 4 - SACD (really brings out the complexity of percussion) Peter Gabriel - So - SACD (only marginally better) Eric Clapton - Reptile - DVD-A (somewhat better) Cowboy Junkies - Whites Off Earth Now! - SACD (somewhat better) The Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out - SACD (substantially better, great mastering) Mary Chapin Carpenter - Time * Sex * Love * - SACD (hardly any difference) The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds - DVD-A (slightly better) Dire Straits - Brother in Arms - SACD (much, much better than the CD) Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - SACD (more welly throughout) Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - DVD-A (interestingly different Alan Parsons mix) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - SACD (only marginally better) k d lang - Invincible Summer - DVD-A (only marginally better) Diana Krall - The Girl in the Other Room - SACD (great dynamics) Queen - A Night at the Opera - DVD-A (quite superb mastering) Santana - Abraxas - SACD (utterly superb) The Rolling Stones - Let it Bleed - SACD (very detailed mastering) The Rolling Stones - Through the Past, Darkly - SACD (variable) Steely Dan - Gaucho - SACD (superb, like master tape) James Taylor - Hourglass - SACD (superb) Stevie Ray Vaughan - Couldn't Stand the Weather - SACD (marginally better) Chris Whitley - Perfect Day - SACD (marginally better) Yes - Fragile - DVD-A (utterly superb, never heard a better version) Neil Young - Harvest - DVD-A (quite a lot better)
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ELP - Brain Salad Surgery - SACD (not better, just as dreadful sounding as the CD) Joe Satriani - Strange Beautiful Music - SACD (pretty much the same)
If there is any interest, I'll go through the classical recordings although generally the CD and SACD versions are closer in many cases.
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Post by dsjr on Feb 3, 2016 21:05:49 GMT
You'll possibly find all the 'good' list have been re-equalised over the CD issues, as Colloms discovered to his shock in the early days.
Brain salad Surgery was made using a particular microphone 'sound' giving an 'odd' tinselly quality to all but the original Diament mastered CD.. I still have the original vinyl and it's there on this, but not as obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:07:18 GMT
A good star get point for me, thanks Martin. So far my only SACD is a Linn sampler. I had no idea where to start.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 3, 2016 21:35:36 GMT
Sadly, you'll have a real job getting hold of many of them. Good luck!
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Post by MartinT on Feb 3, 2016 21:38:51 GMT
You'll possibly find all the 'good' list have been re-equalised over the CD issues I can cope with tonal changes in my assessments, but in many cases the increased resolution and far higher sense of atmosphere and venue are things which really differentiate SACD from CD. The Genesis is a good example, quite staggeringly closer to master tape than any of the CD, standard vinyl and 180g vinyl all of which I own. I've just remembered I have A Trick of the Tail on SACD, too. The vinyl is better.
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Post by daytona600 on Feb 4, 2016 11:59:17 GMT
have 1000s myself & would be a very long list
played these today & give the CD a good kicking
Roger Waters - Amused To Death - 2016 Grammy for best multichannel sound - AP Beach Boys - Pet Sounds mono & stereo mixes - AP Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisted -Mofi
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Post by Barrington on Feb 9, 2016 18:59:44 GMT
"Yes - Fragile - DVD-A (utterly superb, never heard a better version)"
Just got this myself , the CD deluxe which has a DVD-A , these are Steven Wilson remasters. It is excellent but I just can't tell which is the best recording there are so many versions and all are very good. I take it Martin you have the original DVD-A release ?
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Post by daytona600 on Feb 9, 2016 19:01:52 GMT
Mofi 24k CD is excellent , best version is 200g analogue productions , steve hoffman
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Post by MartinT on Feb 9, 2016 19:06:10 GMT
"Yes - Fragile - DVD-A (utterly superb, never heard a better version)" Just got this myself , the CD deluxe which has a DVD-A , these are Steven Wilson remasters. It is excellent but I just can't tell which is the best recording there are so many versions and all are very good. I take it Martin you have the original DVD-A release ? Yes, I do. Quite rare and sounds utterly brilliant. To be honest, I'm not sure Steven Wilson is always the best at remastering. He uses a lot of compression.
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Post by myles on Feb 9, 2016 19:17:05 GMT
Just listening to Brian Wilson-Imagination on DVD-A. It sounds really good, as I remember it. I've never heard it on any other format though. Do you know this one?
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Post by Stratmangler on Feb 9, 2016 20:22:43 GMT
You'll possibly find all the 'good' list have been re-equalised over the CD issues I can cope with tonal changes in my assessments, but in many cases the increased resolution and far higher sense of atmosphere and venue are things which really differentiate SACD from CD. The Genesis is a good example, quite staggeringly closer to master tape than any of the CD, standard vinyl and 180g vinyl all of which I own. I've just remembered I have A Trick of the Tail on SACD, too. The vinyl is better. What year were your Genesis SACD discs from? I finally found the article about the 2007 SACD mixes www.genesis-news.com/c-Genesis-SACDs-Nick-Davis-talks-to-it-about-the-new-51-mixes-s89.html , and they're not the original mixes. They are quite audibly different in areas. The bit that is worrying is this quote from the article It also means that you have to be extremely careful with recent vinyl reissues - they too are likely to have cut using the Davis remixes too.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 9, 2016 20:53:05 GMT
Yes, I think my A Trick of the Tail is from the remastered set of SACDs that came out in the UK. It's good, but not world class.
The SEBTP Japanese SACD is in a different class altogether, massively open and transparent. One of the very best SACDs I have.
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Post by Barrington on Feb 10, 2016 11:34:56 GMT
Sadly, you'll have a real job getting hold of many of them. Good luck! Yes the DVD-A discs seem very rare in the UK , the odd one appears on ebay , Rumours , Night at The Opera , Hotel California (£50) etc.
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Post by MartinT on Feb 10, 2016 11:54:31 GMT
To add to the list:
David Bowie - Scary Monsters - SACD (a little better than the CD, not much in it)
I wish Hunky Dory had been released on SACD!
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Post by Barrington on Mar 3, 2016 20:49:51 GMT
Have you got this Martin , came today , 7" sleeve and a very nice package , SACD btw.
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Post by MartinT on Mar 3, 2016 22:09:06 GMT
No I haven't. Very nice!
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Post by davidf on Mar 30, 2016 22:31:01 GMT
I don't have too many SACDs or DVD-A discs, but the ones I do have have impressed me. Early days of multi-channel just didn't grab me, mainly as I didn't want to hear different instruments coming out of different speakers. That's just wrong.
I bought Brothers In Arms because it was cheap. I didn't want to spend too much on it as I really didn't know what it was going to sound like - I can understand certain electronic music being in multi-channel, but I expected BIA to be a big let down. Wow. Admittedly, at the time, I hadn't heard BIA in quite a long time, but I know for a fact I'd never heard it sound like that before! The bass power on The Man's Too Strong was phenomenal. It really drew you more into the music, and allowed you to hear stuff that the CD wouldn't draw your attention to.
Same as the first time I heard Nine Inch Nails' The Downward Spiral and With Teeth - I could hear stuff I heard on the CD, but now I could hear each individual instrument quite clearly, in its own space (I'd expect that of Trent Reznor though, being the producer that he is). And as already mentioned, Roger Waters' Amused To Death remaster is just stunning (aside from a few aspects I don't like about it - spoiled one of my favourite tracks). I don't care if these are just re-EQ'd
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Post by MartinT on Mar 30, 2016 22:34:50 GMT
I really must give Amused to Death another chance, it's the only one of his I don't really get.
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Post by davidf on Mar 30, 2016 22:39:44 GMT
Story wise, or musically? Love Jeff Beck's guitar playing(which was why I was miffed that he seems to have been completely removed from The Bravery Of Being Out Of Range. Glad I still have my original
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Post by MartinT on Mar 31, 2016 6:02:20 GMT
Musically. I love the Pros and Cons and, especially, Radio KAOS.
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