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Post by MartinT on Sept 12, 2015 16:24:40 GMT
I'll get the stuff together and put it up for sale.
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 8:41:08 GMT
So the answer overall is somewhere between investigate and do not investigate?  |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2015 9:10:26 GMT
I think ultimately you have to try it for yourself, Guest. Either listen to someone else's or see if you can do a trial or sale-and-return.
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Post by ChrisB on Sept 13, 2015 9:10:49 GMT
Well you're unlikely to get a unanimous view about any subject on an audio forum!
What is it apart from the look and the price that attracts you to it?
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Post by Sovereign on Sept 13, 2015 10:04:47 GMT
I'd like to throw in a tentative vote on the contrary side. 
Some of those cheap'n'cheerful Chinese amps can sound pretty darn good. I can't recall what the make or model was now, but Stu ("Russ Abbot" on the Wigwam forum) had something similar and was very pleased. He even demmed it at the Wigwam's Scalford Show and there was nowt wrong with the sound at all, quite impressive, in fact. It was widely praised as a fine sounding and looking piece of kit.
Yaqin make some good stuff. Personally, I'd give it a go.
Is this it?
Cor .... it looks fab, imo 
I have to agree, I used to have a Huge KT88 Yaqin amp, jerry I'm sure I bought it from you via AoS? I may be wrong. It was a very very good amp, and Yaqin have quite a following, if I wasn't such an upgrade fanatic it would have been a long term keeper. i liked the KT 88 so much that I bought another, Anthony from Tube Distinctions heavily upgraded a few of these amps and sold them as a AoS branded amp, it was again even better than the stock model. I know nothing of the model in question, but I would say go for it, but make sure it is suitable for UK mains, as my house has a constant 250v |
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Post by Chris on Sept 13, 2015 12:55:24 GMT
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 13:52:39 GMT
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 13:59:42 GMT
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 14:02:55 GMT
Now this is why I'm asking on here. I know nothing about valves. I'm listening to a lot of classical and single vocal and thought I would like to play with them. Just not confident enough to buy without a bit of advice you see. |
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Post by Sovereign on Sept 13, 2015 14:43:50 GMT
That was the one I had, it was a cracker. The width of the amp was no problem but it was quite deep, I put it on the top shelf of my rack. For 500 notes I doubt if you could get a better valve amp, if you search on AoS you will probably find white a few threads about this amp and different people upgrading it , make sure you are aware of any import duties. |
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Post by Chris on Sept 13, 2015 15:05:32 GMT
The EL84 produces a smooth, rather sweet sound allegedly and they are easy to tube roll. The Russian equivalent (the 6P14P) is good value and comes in all price variety. Even standard EL84s are pretty cheap - just look on eBay for a quad of them. Get a listen first of all to the standard tubes,get the amp modded up a bit the tube roll it for best performance. I think they would suit your listening choices well.
Quite fancy an el84 amp myself but just cannot justify it!
Do you not fancy the AN Kit amp I linked to?
As for "better" valves - that's for you to decide. They all do things differently so there's no clear answer!!
If you are ever near Edinburgh feel free to noise me up for a listen to mine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 15:33:33 GMT
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 16:38:10 GMT
That was the one I had, it was a cracker. The width of the amp was no problem but it was quite deep, I put it on the top shelf of my rack. For 500 notes I doubt if you could get a better valve amp, if you search on AoS you will probably find white a few threads about this amp and different people upgrading it , make sure you are aware of any import duties. I have written to the China Company that is advertising them and asked for dimensions Sovereign. It tells you everything else and the output seems respectable. I'm assuming I can use better valves when I fancy an upgrade, thank you very much for the advice. |
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 16:42:50 GMT
The EL84 produces a smooth, rather sweet sound allegedly and they are easy to tube roll. The Russian equivalent (the 6P14P) is good value and comes in all price variety. Even standard EL84s are pretty cheap - just look on eBay for a quad of them. Get a listen first of all to the standard tubes,get the amp modded up a bit the tube roll it for best performance. I think they would suit your listening choices well. Quite fancy an el84 amp myself but just cannot justify it! Do you not fancy the AN Kit amp I linked to? As for "better" valves - that's for you to decide. They all do things differently so there's no clear answer!! If you are ever near Edinburgh feel free to noise me up for a listen to mine. I think you are right Chris, a smooth sweet sound is exactly what I am after. I've discovered a lot of recordings of single voice have sibilance if your equipment is a tad lean, so that's exactly what I am trying to do. What's a tube roll? As far as a kit goes, I'm out of my depth at present, maybe owning valves would give me a bit more confidence over time? Lovely of you to offer, but I am well south of your location, but thanks anyway. |
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Post by MartinT on Sept 13, 2015 16:45:37 GMT
The EL84 produces a smooth, rather sweet sound allegedly and they are easy to tube roll. The EL84, as used in the Leak Stereo 20, has outstanding midrange quality in a good circuit. It's hard to find better for vocal liquidity. |
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 16:46:59 GMT
Thank you very much for the info, I'll keep an eye out and be sure to post when I have something. |
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Post by Guest on Sept 13, 2015 16:49:57 GMT
The EL84 produces a smooth, rather sweet sound allegedly and they are easy to tube roll. The EL84, as used in the Leak Stereo 20, has outstanding midrange quality in a good circuit. It's hard to find better for vocal liquidity. I just need to know if it would physically fit in my rack Martin. It seems a bit mysterious to me that the Chinese don't offer the dimensions? I'm suspecting it's because it's not the usual 43 x 11 x 31?! |
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Post by speedysteve on Sept 13, 2015 17:01:40 GMT
EL84 amps are hard to get very wrong.
I have 3 on my upper channels in 5w SET form, and very balanced,dynamic and detailed they are too.
I use the Russian long life military tubes. Great sound and last and last.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 17:39:27 GMT
The EL84, as used in the Leak Stereo 20, has outstanding midrange quality in a good circuit. It's hard to find better for vocal liquidity. I just need to know if it would physically fit in my rack Martin. It seems a bit mysterious to me that the Chinese don't offer the dimensions? I'm suspecting it's because it's not the usual 43 x 11 x 31?! EL84s are pretty small so I'd guess it's between 33 and 35 cm wide |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 17:43:43 GMT
actually, here's the specs: Performance Index output power: 12W×2（4Ω-8Ω） harmonic distortion:≤1.5% SNR:≥78dB(A weight) frequency response:6Hz--60KHz signal inputs level:≤300mv load impedance:8Ω or 4Ω The consumption of power source :≤90W Valve:EL84×4 12AX7×2 Input Power Voltage:AC110V/220V 100V, 110V, 127V, 220V 230V, 240V 60Hz/50Hz (100V, 110V, 127V,220V, 230V, 240V version will take 3-14 work days to order)220v is in stock. Dimensions:320mm x160mm x 260mm Weight:12 kg Packing Include:Full Set Tubes, An English operating instructions and Standard 1.5m Power Cord www.china-hifi-audio.com/en/yaqin-tube-amp-audio-c-14/yaqin-mc-84l-el84-vacuum-tube-integrated-amplifier-new-p-148 |
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